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Backup: any need for internal jobs if using 3rd party products?

  Asked By: Griffin    Date: Jun 09    Category: MOSS    Views: 945

I'm not in charge of server backups in my org, but need to have a better
understanding of it in terms of MOSS.

We're going to upgrade CommVault to handle MOSS backups.

In reading the SP Admin's Pocket Consultant, it makes it pretty clear
that the built-in back up tools in MOSS don't fully back up all the
bits of data that one really needs to do a full restore in case of
catastrophic failure.

As such, if we're using a 3rd party back up system that does back up all
necessary elements, is there a need to use the built-in tools as well
for anything but manual back-up and-restore to migrate sites?

To put the question in another way: are there items that the built-in
backup/restore backup that 3rd party apps can't? And, as such, should we
be doing both?

Slightly related question: It sounds like ALL front end servers need to
be fully backed up even on a farm where they are all essentially doing
the same thing/mirrors. Can anyone confirm that?



6 Answers Found

Answer #1    Answered By: Bhavesh Doshi     Answered On: Jun 09

The main things that the Central Admin backup  doesn't get you is anything on the
file system  on the WFEs and a bunch of configuration stuff, like IIS settings.
I wrote a little blog entry up on this topic last month,
www.toddklindt.com/.../Post.aspx?ID=46.back  up my IIS
settings and some folders on my WFEs and call it good.

Answer #2    Answered By: Elisa Santos     Answered On: Jun 09

Don't forget that Alternate Access Mappings are not backed up or

Answer #3    Answered By: Tatiana Houston     Answered On: Jun 09

Thanks for the responses. However, I think I'm asking for the opposite.
Is there anything a 3rd  party back  up system  like CommVault WOULDN'T
back up? I'm mainly wondering if there is a reason to run BOTH CommVault
AND timed backups  within MOSS.

Answer #4    Answered By: Arlene Hodge     Answered On: Jun 09

I bet it will not back  up Alternate Access mappings. And, I would ALWAYS
use MOSS native backups  for your Shared Services Provider. Only sure way
to get it back that I have seen. That is purely my opinion, however

So, Commvault should backup/restore almost everything. You will have to
test it to be sure. Don't believe the sales pitch...

It's good stuff, don't get me wrong. But I have used it and it wasn't
that straight-forward.

Answer #5    Answered By: Jolene Sandoval     Answered On: Jun 09

I've never used CommVault, so I have no idea what it does or does not
do. My post was only help you determine what all the things you need to
back SharePoint up. Now you'll need to see if CommVault grabs it all or

Answer #6    Answered By: Brandan Roach     Answered On: Jun 09

Yeah, back  those up too..........